<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789</id><updated>2011-04-21T14:19:56.598-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Afterpastor</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>13</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-116278432081511627</id><published>2006-11-05T19:37:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-11-05T19:38:40.826-08:00</updated><title type='text'>HOW DO CHURCHES HEAL?</title><content type='html'>HOW DO CHURCHES HEAL?&lt;br /&gt;After-pastor churches are ones that have experienced a violation of trust by an offending clergy. The condition of the church prior to the incident is a critical determining factor. If the church was unhealthy before the incident, then it will return to an unhealthy state afterwards. But if the church was healthy before, it will likely return as a healthy church later.&lt;br /&gt;A second factor, is if the church really wants to recover. Reminds me of Jesus asking the man at the pool if he wants to be healed. If the answer is yes and the people are willing to work at it, then miracles will happen.&lt;br /&gt;An additional component is that the people of the church must truly love each other and be willing to keep communication open and honest. Unhealthy behavior can not be tolerated and must be extinguished as soon as possible in loving ways.&lt;br /&gt;Also the role of the incoming after-pastor is crucial. Knowing that the trust has been violated in the past, one must be extra careful not to violate any newly acquired trust. This will undo years of work and spread a cloud of suspicion over anything done from that point onward.&lt;br /&gt;Seeing the joy present in a healthy healed congregation is such a delight, and ministry does become productive again, meetings are free from hostilities, fellowship is enjoyed and there is a sense of wellness clearly visible as soon as anyone walks in the door.&lt;br /&gt;For more info about after-pastor ministry, check out the web site:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://afterpastor.org/"&gt;http://afterpastor.org/&lt;/a&gt; See especially the APART link&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-116278432081511627?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/116278432081511627/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=116278432081511627' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/116278432081511627'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/116278432081511627'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/11/how-do-churches-heal.html' title='HOW DO CHURCHES HEAL?'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-115109209118654222</id><published>2006-06-23T12:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-06-23T12:48:11.200-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I MUST BE NUTS</title><content type='html'>Retirement felt so good. Because I live close to churches I previously served, I felt I was safe pew sitting in a Congregational church. No expectations, or demands, only preaching once in a while, and not being a member, I was not put on any committees. I figured I was home free. Wrong!&lt;br /&gt;God has a way of nudging me even when I thought I was out of the line of fire. Encounters with folks from one of the churches I served kept finding me and informing me about what was going on. “Not my concern” I told myself. But something was gnawing at my soul. Retirement income is not enormous, but we get by in an okay fashion. I have lots of free time and am engaged in helping after-pastors deal with the unhealthy dynamics of their churches.&lt;br /&gt;The Divine nudge kept urging me to volunteer for an appointment to this very small church. It looks a bit like the church/school house on “Little House on the Prairie.” Folks in the church have done a major renovation to the parish hall and have a full schedule of events this summer and into the fall season.&lt;br /&gt;Wrestling with God brought out my best arguments. I spend 30 years dealing with wounded churches, hurt by clergy sexual misconduct. I had done my part, and this was one of those churches. Why would I want to go back there? I must be nuts, because I found myself offering to serve this little, struggling church. What was I thinking?!&lt;br /&gt;Well, it is a done deal, and I begin the first Sunday in July. That Divine nudge would not go away, and now I am excited about finding out how far this church has come since I left 10 years ago. The offending pastor left 20 years ago and was removed from pastoral ministry forever.&lt;br /&gt;At the interview, I told them “I know what I know; what I don’t know is what I don’t know.” I will have to listen carefully to hear where they are now. I know the human tendency is to freeze situations in time and refuse to acknowledge where people have grown and changed. This will be my growing edge and ever present challenge. It is my hope that enough healing has taken place, that we can begin and a point of new beginnings.&lt;br /&gt;Don’t forget my web site at: http://afterpastor.org/&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-115109209118654222?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/115109209118654222/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=115109209118654222' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/115109209118654222'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/115109209118654222'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/06/i-must-be-nuts.html' title='I MUST BE NUTS'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-114598236021004313</id><published>2006-04-25T09:23:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2006-04-25T09:26:00.220-07:00</updated><title type='text'>MISCOMMUNICATION</title><content type='html'>MISCOMMUNICATION&lt;br /&gt;I know what I say, but what you heard is not what I said. This statement becomes all to common in an after-pastor church. Miscommunication is a typical symptom that something is wrong in the dynamics of the church.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I once mentioned to someone that going into the hospital where I had Cardiac by-pass surgery to visit another cardiac patient was a strange experience. In my mind I was thinking about the difference between walking the halls and being wheeled into the surgical suite. It is a unique perspective. What was heard was that I refused to visit a parishioner in the Cardiac unit because it “freaked me out.” Did I say that? The truth of the matter was that I did not know he was there until he was home. No one thought to mention his hospitalization to me. That hospital was 60 miles away so I did not just “drop in” unless I knew someone was there. What was most infuriating was the “rumor” stuck, no matter how many times I tried to explain or correct the perception.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When there has been a violation of trust in the Pastoral Office, why would anyone believe the pastor when a rumor makes more sense? Besides the rumor comes from another person who is trusted. After-pastors face situations like this frequently. The violation of trust colors the position, and stains the one holding that title, regardless of how trustworthy that person may or may not be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps this is the most difficult aspect of after-pastor ministry. Authentic communication is essential to lead a congregation toward healing; miscommunication is counter-productive to that end. Clear and consistent messages must be stated and heard correctly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We live in the information era, but how well do we listen?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For more information about after-pastor ministry, check out my web site at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://afterpastor.org/"&gt;http://afterpastor.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To add comments, click below.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-114598236021004313?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/114598236021004313/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=114598236021004313' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/114598236021004313'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/114598236021004313'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/04/miscommunication.html' title='MISCOMMUNICATION'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-114356751087397662</id><published>2006-03-28T09:35:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-03-28T09:38:30.893-08:00</updated><title type='text'>PHYSICAL COSTS</title><content type='html'>PHYSICAL COSTS&lt;br /&gt;Holmes and Rhea established an instrument to determine the likelihood of serious illness based on a stress level indicator. Even good stress, such as buying a new home, landing a new job etc. There are also negative stress factors, all which predict the possibility of personal illness. While there is some value to this stress indicator, other factors will vary the results. How each person handles medical situations, our general attitude, family support all alter the projected outcome.&lt;br /&gt;One area not fully explored is how trying to work in a job we are educated in and trained to perform, when the job becomes more frustrating then we anticipated. Such is the world for most “after-pastors.” Seminary education, associated Field Education, and personal experience within the church, may not really prepare us for the frustration of serving a church where the members of the congregation do not trust the person holding the pastoral office. If one steps into a position of leadership when a previous pastor has violated the trust, we are met with suspicion and often are subjected to hyper vigilance by those who do not want to be caught unaware again.&lt;br /&gt;I am living (almost dying) proof of the physical cost to living in these stressful churches. Medical issues abide with me and I must deal with too many medications, treatments and cautions every day. Others I know have also been plagued by illness, depression, anger issues and assorted maladies.&lt;br /&gt;I found out almost too late about the central role of good self-care, while doing this demanding work. Interests outside of the church became a cornerstone element for me. If any pastor focuses entirely on life within the church, that is a formula for disaster. I needed to find a niche where I was accepted just for who I am. The expectations of clergy are high enough, but when trying to re-establish a trust relationship, which you did not violate, the ministry becomes frustrating and demeaning.&lt;br /&gt;I discovered that I need to be near the water. I live by a lake, visit the ocean, like to kayak, canoe and drive the motorboat. Sometimes I sit in the boat out in the lake, fishing pole in hand, with no bait on it, just to relax and so that well meaning boaters do not come by and ask if I need assistance.&lt;br /&gt;I own an old muscle car (Olds 442) and take it to car shows, talk with other “motor heads” about automotive topics. In these situations, I am just me, set free from expectations for a time. It is refreshing and renewing.&lt;br /&gt;Good self-care involves doing what makes you whole, refreshed and affirmed. My self-care is not expected to work for anyone other than me. Each person needs to find what is best for themselves.&lt;br /&gt;What is crucial, is that self-care balance the frustration and demands of serving wounded, “after-pastor” churches. For more information on this subject see my web site at: www.afterpastor.org. I welcome your comments below&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-114356751087397662?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/114356751087397662/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=114356751087397662' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/114356751087397662'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/114356751087397662'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/03/physical-costs.html' title='PHYSICAL COSTS'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-114066184069314793</id><published>2006-02-22T18:28:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-02-22T18:30:40.706-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Multiple hits</title><content type='html'>MULTIPLE HITS&lt;br /&gt;Some churches are hit by clergy misconduct or dysfunction more than once. Reeling from a series of unfortunate pastorates carries a huge cost. Anger at the denominational leaders who provide pastoral profiles either through the “call” method or the “appointive” process, is intense. They are viewed with suspicion and distrust. Questions are asked about how much the denominational leaders knew about a certain clergy person. How did this individual receive approval for serving a church? What safeguards are in place to screen out unhealthy or damaging clergy? What had been the track record of this clergy person before being called or appointed here? All these are legitimate inquires.&lt;br /&gt;The difficulty here is that the victimized church can place all the blame on the denominational leaders and not look at what the church may be doing which contributes to the unhealthy environment. Unresolved anger, when allowed to fester, creates a hostile congregation which even the best equipped clergy would have a hard time leading. If communication becomes closed, sub groups lie in ambush and there is a basic lack of trust for the pastor, then things are not likely to be resolved any time soon.&lt;br /&gt;This does not excuse the incoming pastor from taking responsibility for the boundaries and maintaining healthy relationships, but dysfunction does not happen in isolation. It would serve a church well to examine its internal dynamics after a series of difficult and/or brief pastorates.&lt;br /&gt;I have seen churches where the misconduct was so far back in time, no one remembers the incident or who was the likely offending clergy. These are “cold case after-pastor” churches. Twenty or more years later, the unhealthy dynamics continue but no one knows why. Basic distrust of the pastor (whomever that may be) and anger at the denominational leaders seem to linger unabated.&lt;br /&gt;Open, honest and forthright communications seem to be at the root of managing this situation. Listening sessions in small groups are likely to be a successful method to move beyond the stuck dynamics. It would take a strong pastoral leader to keep this on track and avoid reverting to previous patterns.&lt;br /&gt;All this is new, so it remains to be seen how it will really work.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-114066184069314793?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/114066184069314793/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=114066184069314793' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/114066184069314793'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/114066184069314793'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/02/multiple-hits.html' title='Multiple hits'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-113772532085800545</id><published>2006-01-19T18:46:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2006-01-19T18:48:40.870-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Reflections on teaching</title><content type='html'>Reflections from teaching the after-pastor course.&lt;br /&gt;(Note: I taught an after-pastor intensive, 2 day, course for after-pastor ministry to clergy. For further details, request a copy of the report by going to the comments link below.)&lt;br /&gt;Teaching the intensive course was interactive. That says a great deal about my preferred style as well as my learning mode. The result is that I learn as much, if not more, than the students.&lt;br /&gt;What I gleaned from the course is that lay people in local churches need to be engaged in understanding the dynamics of after-pastor churches in the same way clergy need to know what to expect. This is most necessary when the misconduct was recent, but churches can benefit from a course such as this if the misconduct was many years ago, or not fully known. The key is finding the will to want to be healed (such as in the case of the crippled man by the pool in John 5). If the local church knows that they are chewing up pastor after pastor and the turn around of clergy is frequent, then they must realize at some point, the church is unhealthy. It is only when the leadership of the church wants to get better, heal and find wholeness that any significant change can occur.&lt;br /&gt;Another insight I received was that some clergy have served a succession of wounded churches. When denominational leaders review their “track record” it appears they are ineffective. This may not be the case! These are frustrating churches to serve and are usually not very fruitful in their ministry. Too many really good pastors are gone from the ministry, and in some cases from the church. This is tragic. A competent pastor serving a wounded church may not do very well attempting to build up the membership roles. Who wants to remain in an unhealthy church?&lt;br /&gt;Often I feel like a voice, crying in the wilderness and I wonder if any one hears what I am saying. Wounded churches are involved in a self-defeating downward spiral; damaging the Gospel they represent and destroying capable, caring pastors who are offering themselves for the sake of this same Gospel. Healing needs to come to these churches and people before the kingdom can be advanced.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-113772532085800545?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/113772532085800545/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=113772532085800545' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113772532085800545'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113772532085800545'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/01/reflections-on-teaching_19.html' title='Reflections on teaching'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-113772531935992152</id><published>2006-01-19T18:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-01-19T18:48:39.376-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Reflections on teaching</title><content type='html'>Reflections from teaching the after-pastor course.&lt;br /&gt;(Note: I taught an after-pastor intensive, 2 day, course for after-pastor ministry to clergy. For further details, request a copy of the report by going to the comments link below.)&lt;br /&gt;Teaching the intensive course was interactive. That says a great deal about my preferred style as well as my learning mode. The result is that I learn as much, if not more, than the students.&lt;br /&gt;What I gleaned from the course is that lay people in local churches need to be engaged in understanding the dynamics of after-pastor churches in the same way clergy need to know what to expect. This is most necessary when the misconduct was recent, but churches can benefit from a course such as this if the misconduct was many years ago, or not fully known. The key is finding the will to want to be healed (such as in the case of the crippled man by the pool in John 5). If the local church knows that they are chewing up pastor after pastor and the turn around of clergy is frequent, then they must realize at some point, the church is unhealthy. It is only when the leadership of the church wants to get better, heal and find wholeness that any significant change can occur.&lt;br /&gt;Another insight I received was that some clergy have served a succession of wounded churches. When denominational leaders review their “track record” it appears they are ineffective. This may not be the case! These are frustrating churches to serve and are usually not very fruitful in their ministry. Too many really good pastors are gone from the ministry, and in some cases from the church. This is tragic. A competent pastor serving a wounded church may not do very well attempting to build up the membership roles. Who wants to remain in an unhealthy church?&lt;br /&gt;Often I feel like a voice, crying in the wilderness and I wonder if any one hears what I am saying. Wounded churches are involved in a self-defeating downward spiral; damaging the Gospel they represent and destroying capable, caring pastors who are offering themselves for the sake of this same Gospel. Healing needs to come to these churches and people before the kingdom can be advanced.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-113772531935992152?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/113772531935992152/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=113772531935992152' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113772531935992152'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113772531935992152'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/01/reflections-on-teaching.html' title='Reflections on teaching'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-113717157239917494</id><published>2006-01-13T08:57:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-01-13T08:59:32.656-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Throwing sheeps to the wolves</title><content type='html'>THROWING SHEEP TO THE WOLVES&lt;br /&gt;Pastors appointed or called to wounded churches are often chewed up, spit out and blamed for not “fixing” their church or solving their problems. As I addressed below, the unintentional after-pastor serving a church, unhealthy because of prior clergy misconduct, is a recipe for disaster. Unless the Church (in its broadest definition) trains, equips and prepares pastors for this work, the shortage of incoming clergy will continue.&lt;br /&gt;I can call to mind about a dozen former pastors who have left parish ministry and, in some cases, left the church altogether. These very talented, caring folks have been damaged beyond repair and the church has not seen the carnage it has done. Granted that some clergy have severely wounded the churches they were called to serve, but at some point healing needs to happen.&lt;br /&gt;The after-pastor intensive course I taught this week is but a beginning to understanding the dynamics of wounded churches, and preparing clergy to fill these roles. The goal of the after-pastor is “To work toward restoring the integrity of the pastoral office.” This is intentionally stated to remove the burden of thinking we need to accomplish this during our term in the office of pastor.&lt;br /&gt;Support for the after-pastor is essential if the person filling this role is to survive (and even thrive). Clergy self-care is also an important component. I asked the class to share what activities and interests bring them delight. I was looking to see if these folks had fulfilling ventures outside of the church. They all did. This is really good and helps maintain a sense of self and links to other “communities” outside the church.&lt;br /&gt;In the post below the line should read “Oh, by the way.” Speling is not my native language, nor is typing!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-113717157239917494?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/113717157239917494/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=113717157239917494' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113717157239917494'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113717157239917494'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/01/throwing-sheeps-to-wolves.html' title='Throwing sheeps to the wolves'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-113668951037499731</id><published>2006-01-07T19:03:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2006-01-07T19:05:10.406-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Unintentional After-Pastor</title><content type='html'>Unintentional After-Pastors&lt;br /&gt;Conversations with some colleagues this week has illustrated the high incidence of unintentional after-pastors. These are folks serving churches where clergy misconduct happened before they arrived. At best they were told “Oh, my the way…” just before assuming the position of pastor. Some were not even informed at all. To walk into such a hostile environment unprepared, can be deadly!&lt;br /&gt;One individual realized recently that they had served a succession of wounded churches and was not aware of this until taking a closer look at each church. This person is on the verge of getting out of ministry all together, and the Church would be poorer if that happened. I know of some very creative, loving dynamic, caring people now gone from pastoral ministry because they ended up in an after-pastor church which chewed them up, spit them out then blamed them for not “fixing” the church.&lt;br /&gt;When will denominational leaders get a clue? They cannot continue to send unprepared clergy into these rats nests. Just the expense of training new clergy to fill the demand is massive, not to mention to human toll and spiritual damage done in churches where the trust was violated, make this a major concern.&lt;br /&gt;My life calling is now; to eliminate the unintentional after-pastor!&lt;br /&gt;I propose to do this by offering training, education, support and guidance for intentional after-pastors. These will be folks willing to subject themselves to this unique healing ministry.&lt;br /&gt;I also will continue to advocate for complete disclosure of church situations before any appointment or call is offered. Denominational leaders will be well served and so will the wounded churches, if well prepared, supported and informed clergy serve these after-pastor churches.&lt;br /&gt;Mainline denominational churches are concerned about the membership losses and are attempting to apply programs aimed at church growth to reverse this trend. Unless the churches wounded by clergy misconduct find healing and wholeness, the downward spiral will continue.&lt;br /&gt;Any one willing to work on this effort with me, is welcome. Please respond using the “comments” link below.&lt;br /&gt;For more information you may check out my web site at:&lt;br /&gt;Web site&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://afterpastor.org/"&gt;http://afterpastor.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-113668951037499731?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/113668951037499731/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=113668951037499731' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113668951037499731'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113668951037499731'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2006/01/unintentional-after-pastor.html' title='Unintentional After-Pastor'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-113579423761811943</id><published>2005-12-28T10:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2005-12-28T10:23:57.630-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Beat Goes On</title><content type='html'>In this season when Joy and peace are the ideals of the day, it distresses me to hear of churches wounded so long ago, still causing damage to their pastors and being self-destructive. Well intentioned clergy, honestly trying to perform ministry in a mine field, are getting demolished without the church having the ability to look at why its history is so conflicted and painful. I weep for might be, and cry for what is in many places. What puzzles me is when a church forces out pastor after pastor, saying it is all their fault that the church is in such turmoil. How can a church have succession of six or seven "bad" pastors in a row? Something is wrong with this picture! Just heard from a person ready to give up on pastoral ministry because of the way they are being treated. Most of what is wrong has nothing to do what the ministry offered by this pastor. Yet the focus of anger is directed at the clergy serving at the time. The assumption being that if the church just gets rid of this pastor, everything will be alright. That is rarely the case, unless there is identifiable clergy misconduct. Ministry to wounded churches and wounded people is difficult, demanding and frustrating. Unless one is trained and prepared for this work, it should be avoided. The cost is high, the toll is great and the rewards are few and limited. One case I heard of recently happened over 30 years ago and the church is still limping along, chewing up pastors and dying off without new people joining (why would any become part of this unhealthy community?). Another case where the clergy misconduct was long ago and happened multiple times, is being served by a pastor who prefers to remain at a distance, not involved in the community life of the people who gather at the church. This pastor does whatever service is requested (weddings, funerals, Ecumenical worship services etc.) then disappears immediately after it is over. This pastor does not engage in fellowship activities and is anly available only by appointment (in a small rural community). This approach is becoming counter-productive rapidly. My hope, prayer and dream is that one day efforts will be in place to perform healing ministries with these hurting churches and we can, more effectively, be about the real work of ministry; nurturing wholeness, challenging people to grow, engage in creating mission and evangelism for our time. Be sure to check out my web site: &lt;a href="http://afterpastor.org/"&gt;http://afterpastor.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-113579423761811943?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/113579423761811943/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=113579423761811943' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113579423761811943'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113579423761811943'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2005/12/beat-goes-on.html' title='The Beat Goes On'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-113433014232421553</id><published>2005-12-11T11:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2005-12-11T11:42:22.363-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Hidden hurt</title><content type='html'>In the past few days, I have heard of more churches injured by clergy misconduct.  Some of them were years ago and just being known now, while others are recent victims of abuse. My passion for these wounded churches and wounded people is deep. I cringe every time I hear of another faith community damaged by clergy misconduct.  I wonder how many churches are struggling with the after effects of abusive pastors.  Unhealthy dynamics which are produced will likely last for years, or even decades.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thought I understood my calling 30 years ago, and I fulfilled what I knew then.  As my pastoral ministry unfolded, I kept running into this strange land of wounded churches; what I have come to understand as the "twilight zone," (where things are not as they seem).  The church is a wonderful institution, but it is subject to abuses of power and sexual exploitation like any other institution.  Wounded churches need healing, compassionate leadership and recognition of the injury they have received.  This is my new understanding of my calling, to offer aid, guidance and wisdom from my own experiences offered to others filling the pastoral role in wounded churches.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like to hear from any clergy serving wounded and abused churches; tell your stories and I will listen and offer any insights from my journey and studying this subject.  I have been blessed by knowing some of the national leaders in ministry to churches with clergy misconduct in their past.  Now I want to share this with others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You may access my web site at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://afterpastor.org/"&gt;http://afterpastor.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-113433014232421553?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/113433014232421553/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=113433014232421553' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113433014232421553'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113433014232421553'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2005/12/hidden-hurt.html' title='Hidden hurt'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-113314175201930182</id><published>2005-11-27T20:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2005-11-27T17:35:52.030-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Yes Reverend, there are healthy churches out there</title><content type='html'>When in the thick of dysfunctional chruch systems, it is hard to see beyond the hurting world of a wounded church.  It saps ALL your energy and is at risk to injure your soul. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The hardest thing I ever did was to resign from an unhealthy church.  It tore me up, ruined my health and put most of my relationships in turmoil.  Once that decision was finalized, I felt a huge burden lifted from me.  I do not know what the furture of that church will be, but I know that I am doing much better.  I had spoken to many other clergy who served that same church and without exception, they all had similiar experiences, and left!  I stayed longer than any of them; I guess I was not smart enough to leave after 2 years like the rest of them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am now a confirmed "pew sitter" in another church in my retirement years.  It is a healthy church. I see the difference, and it is wonderful.  People are friendly, happy and best of all; there is no conflict.  I did have the privledge of serving one healthy church, so I know what they are like.    They are such a joy to serve and just be a part of their ministry. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not sure what the percentage of healthy to unhealthy churches is, but I hear way too many cases of problematic situations.  Are we not call to be followers of the example of Jesus?  He only turned over the tables in the Temple once in His 3 year ministry.  Most of the time He displayed compassion, healing, love and grace.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-113314175201930182?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/113314175201930182/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=113314175201930182' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113314175201930182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113314175201930182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2005/11/yes-reverend-there-are-healthy.html' title='Yes Reverend, there are healthy churches out there'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19152789.post-113251400255932068</id><published>2005-11-20T14:20:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2005-11-20T11:13:22.570-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Recovery in retirement</title><content type='html'>The retirment party is now a fading memory. Five months into this new life and it is grand!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I spend the last 31 years serving in pastoral ministry. It was the most demanding, low paying job I ever did. I loved it! Interacting with a vital community and encountering various dimensions of the human condition left no room for boredom. I met some wonderful people, who had survived some terrible experiences, yet found a faith and a hope to carry them through.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is not to say that all was warm and cozy. I ran into some who thought the church ought to be run THEIR WAY, rather than according to the rules set in place by the denomination, and local policies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The most damaging dynamics I faced came when there was clergy violations of trust. I followed in pastorates where previous pastors were accused of sexual misconduct in all my appointments! This did not include all churches (often I served 2 churches at a time). Needless to say; this created unhealthy situations, lack of trust being at the root of most difficulties. I did the best I could to restore the basic trust in each location, but was not always successful. Some churches were too damaged to recover. I am very sad about that, but there is a shared responsibility needed for any church to heal.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I plan to give the rest of my time and energy to offering guidance and support to any clergy serving in a wounded church that has experienced misconduct in its leadership.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a web site just for this purpose. It can be seen at : &lt;a href="http://afterpastor.org/"&gt;http://afterpastor.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope anyone who is in this position will visit this site and feel free to share struggles and insights with others who are in this unique ministry. You may add thoughts to this blog or through my e-mail link on the site.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am now healing and gaining strength after all those years of difficult church dynamics. I am rediscovering my Sacred worth, am able to freely express my thoughts and opinions and delight in life. I was fortunate to be able to retire with a successful ministry, following a situation that was so bad, I had to resign. I am so greatful I did not leave then, as I was tempted to do.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please share your thoughts.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/19152789-113251400255932068?l=copinhaven.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/feeds/113251400255932068/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19152789&amp;postID=113251400255932068' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113251400255932068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/19152789/posts/default/113251400255932068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://copinhaven.blogspot.com/2005/11/recovery-in-retirement.html' title='Recovery in retirement'/><author><name>Copin Haven</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594801833460275271</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
